Thursday, May 27, 2010

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The east coasts version of the Journal Sentinel ran a piece yesterday about Hoffman struggling, and the evil organization that refuses to stick with him. Jake Peavy was more than willing to bash the Brewers:

“He’s the epitome of what the game’s about, playing the game the right way and being the ultimate professional,” said Chicago White Sox starter Jake Peavy, a former teammate.

“You can’t help but to pull for a guy like that, and I hate to see what’s happened. I don’t necessarily agree, looking from the outside in, with how they treated the situation. Everybody goes through tough times. And for him to throw the eighth inning of a game and then somebody else save it, I just think that’s as disrespectful as can be.”

I can only assume Peavy is crossing his fingers and hoping his White Sox never have to respect Hoffman. I really doubt he'd be hammering Ozzie for taking Trev out of the closers role if it was his wins Trevor was pissing over the outfield wall.

Hoffman, despite a total inability to get guys out or throw his fastball for strikes, continued to insist he was still perfectly find and demanded the ball in the 9th. How is this not disrespectful? To his teammates, his fans and the organization Hoffman basically said "screw you, I can still do this!" Reminds me of a 95 year old grandma who refuses to give up the keys to the Oldsmobile.

Thankfully, it appears Macha is ready to end this grave injustice that has been inflicted upon the Closer.

Hoffman, for whatever reason (yet again a simple lack on the sunk cost concept is likely in play) the Brewers feel it is imperative to get Hoffman back in the closers role. I assume/hope that this is an attempt to increase his market value in order to make him tradeable. Excellent in theory but in practice...who could Melvin possibly get for Hoffman? Hardy was cheap and Melvin was able to turn that tarnished brass into a center fielder likely to set the organization back at that position for two years. Hoffman is at best an untrustworthy closer owed $8 million. Any club taking him off the Brewers hands will also have to pay him a half million buyout if they don't want him in 2011. There's just no value there, even if he does start to pitch well for the next couple weeks.

Trevor Hoffman has proven he can no longer pitch well in high leverage situations. What exactly has he done to "earn" the spot back? Let Braddock or Axford save games for the rest of the year. They'll learn to pitch to major leaguers or we'll learn that they don't belong on a ball club that has a chance to win (meaning next year's team of course).

20 comments:

Jon said...

I'm far from a big Trevor Hoffman fan, but the guy pitched a tremendous 54 innings last year, and pretty much every year before that for 15 straight seasons. And now after 15 miserable innings you're so confident in concluding he's finished? Take a step back and think of how you'd analyze the situation if he was the Dodgers closer and you were looking at his #'s from the outside. Granted the 15 innings are truly horrific, but they're still just 15 innings. He might be done but its pretty unlkely he completely fell off a cliff after such a good year last year.

E.S.K. said...

Why is it unlikely? He is 42 years old and has, in fact, completely fallen off a cliff performance-wise:
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/h/hoffmtr01.shtml

My bigger point, however, was what do the Brewers get by returning him to the role? Where is the benefit for the organization?

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Yea but the cliff is 15 innings, thats a tiny sample size! and yes he's 42 but he was terrific at 41. but to your larger point, the only benefit is if he's legitimately the best reliever they have. based on the past 100 or 200 innings, that would seem to be the case. if he's injured or if pitch fx shows some drastic changes in his velocity or something this year, then i'd move him into mop-up work until he either looks better or proves to be finished. but if his "stuff" appears similar, i'd assume he just had a bad 15 innings and also assume he's still probably the best reliever (unless you have someone else really good). Regarding Peavy's comments though, i agree they're ridiculous but he's probably good friends with Trevor so what do you expect.

E.S.K. said...

The Brewers are at the point where realistically they need to think about the future. Even if Hoffman is marginally the best reliever, it still makes sense to start auditioning guys for next season. There is going to be massive turnover in the Brewers pitching staff next year (one can assume) and it would be nice if the Brewers could get some sort of idea what their farm arms were capable of against major league talent.

PaulNoonan said...

I think PitchFx has shown him to be off. I'll try to find it.

I know he has had tons of trouble throwing his changeup. It's too close to his crappy fastball right now. There was certainly just cause for demoting him even if he does rebound.

I think they'll keep trying to get him back into the role just for his 600th save if nothing else. Call it the Biggio philosophy.

PaulNoonan said...

http://www.brewcrewball.com/2010/4/28/1448792/yes-there-is-something-wrong-with

Jon said...

Interesting Pitch fx stuff, still based on small sample but some pretty big differences there. ESK i agree that if you think the season is over then no need to use Hoffman(personally i think its a little too early to give up). But i still think saying he's proven that he's finished is going too far.

tracker said...

In his last blowup as a closer, he threw 14 pitches: 5 fastballs, 5 cutters, 4 changeups.

I don't see how the cutter serves him, unless he throws it because he's lost that much confidence in the change. It's an 80 mph meatball, either a too-fast changeup or a too-slow fastball, that renders both his fastball and change less effective. In any case, it's a pitch he began throwing a lot more in May.

I think he's done. You can trot him out there, and he'll get his 600 eventually, but there will be more pain if you do so.

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