tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post854890438303413306..comments2024-03-15T02:19:47.181-05:00Comments on Brewed Sports: Hair of the Dog, 11/13/08DannyNoonanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12965127114354857721noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-26243187314974066792008-11-14T14:10:00.000-06:002008-11-14T14:10:00.000-06:00yes. i believe i said that.yes. i believe i said that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-22569614392140370592008-11-14T12:43:00.000-06:002008-11-14T12:43:00.000-06:00now, you picked a metric which supported your hypo...now, you picked a metric which supported your hypothesis because you had no data.E.S.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02755352124021777813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-3178977279083880582008-11-13T19:47:00.000-06:002008-11-13T19:47:00.000-06:00Comparing win loss record might be weak. I know w...Comparing win loss record might be weak. I know what my eyes see but i didn't think an unsupported argument that Favre looks better held any merit. I picked a metric which seeemed to fit the data.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07014233410007615111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-752056374184236342008-11-13T18:08:00.000-06:002008-11-13T18:08:00.000-06:00Horace, good commenting. I think strength of sche...Horace, good commenting. <BR/><BR/>I think strength of schedule is probably the biggest factor. <BR/><BR/>I would add that even if Favre would have played better than Rogers with the Packers this year, Rodgers has been good enough where Favre could not have played THAT much better, no matter what, and picking on Thompson for this alleged mistake is silly. (You basically made this point too, I'm just restating).PaulNoonanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01600099270280639424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-15047430227132102262008-11-13T13:27:00.000-06:002008-11-13T13:27:00.000-06:00The article does make one point about the Packers ...The article does make one point about the Packers that many are overlooking: losing Corey Williams hurt this team about as much as losing Favre.E.S.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02755352124021777813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-88779580431945606972008-11-13T13:26:00.000-06:002008-11-13T13:26:00.000-06:00http://footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/walkthrou...http://footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/walkthrough-return-king<BR/><BR/>I'm not using QB rating to compare the two, really, just saying that using the teams respective records to judge QB performance seems even more foolish.<BR/><BR/>The article above is all about Favre, for the most part. Interesting if nothing else.E.S.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02755352124021777813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-15799175036283559052008-11-13T13:05:00.000-06:002008-11-13T13:05:00.000-06:00I agree that the play calling was better last year...I agree that the play calling was better last year. The question I would ask is ... why? Is it because they had more confidence in Favre's ability to execute the offense they ran last year? Is it a product of worse play along the front line? Are they trying to fold things into the offense that they expected to work but aren't? Have they been forced to change thier offensive calls because they face significantly different starting field position, or field conditions or game/score situations? Have they faced better opposition this year? I think its probably a combination of all of those things, although I don't know that I could really prove it. How much would the presence of Favre change any of that this year? Not much, I don't think. The reason this team has lost 5 games has a lot more to do with thier inability to stop the run than anything else, I think. However, I do they they probably would won one more than they have to date with Favre, based on his experience alone, since I'm not convinced his skills have dropped off from last year. That one game could be the difference between post season and not ... but this team, with or without Favre, doesn't look like a team that could win more than maybe a Wild Card round game, if they got a favorable draw. Given that, I think the experience that Rogers is gaining, the draft picks we'll get, and the extra cap room that comes from having pulled the trigger on the trade probably outweighs, in my mind, possibly missing the play-offs by a game one season.<BR/><BR/>E ... I'm not sure I agree with you. Rogers and Favre are playing in completely different systems. While Rogers is starting for the first time this year, he has been around this offense, coaching staff and many of these players for 3+ years. Favre is playing in a completely different offense, with completely different coaches, and completely different recievers. I would expect his numbers to fall off as a result. I know you have referenced QB rating as proof that Rogers is playing better. I admit, I don't know the formula for computing it, but I'm not sure it serves as a particularly compelling way to compare performance, unless it can filter out the differences in the offensive scheme, personel, coaching and opponent differences between the two. Do you think Favre's QB rating would be similar to what he has with the Jets had he taken all of Roger's snaps this year? I don't ...Horacehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16208371719450650442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-54886916749134973342008-11-13T09:15:00.000-06:002008-11-13T09:15:00.000-06:00Oh, and Rodgers is playing better football, Favre ...Oh, and Rodgers is playing better football, Favre plays for the better football team.E.S.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02755352124021777813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1413451422114161954.post-18291173329623634112008-11-13T09:12:00.000-06:002008-11-13T09:12:00.000-06:00I think we'll know by Friday afternoon if Sabathia...I think we'll know by Friday afternoon if Sabathia will remain a Brewer. We'll be able to gauge that the moment the Yankee offer goes public.E.S.K.https://www.blogger.com/profile/02755352124021777813noreply@blogger.com